isofu 发表于 2011-4-16 10:25:53

FCCA的CAP报告,有几点客户不接受,大家帮我看一下如何回复最好

<p>我们上次FCCA验厂,我上次回复FCCA的CAP报告,有几点客户不接受,帮我看一下如何回复最好。</p><p>多谢大家了!</p><p>下面是回复:</p><div>For&nbsp;1.1.2&nbsp;Not&nbsp;acceptable.&nbsp;Please&nbsp;provide&nbsp;the&nbsp;photo&nbsp;of&nbsp;test&nbsp;equipment.</div><div>For&nbsp;2.0.1&nbsp;Not&nbsp;acceptable.&nbsp;Please&nbsp;provide&nbsp;inventory&nbsp;of&nbsp;incoming&nbsp;materials.</div><div>For&nbsp;2.0.6&nbsp;Not&nbsp;acceptable.&nbsp;Factory&nbsp;should&nbsp;establish&nbsp;the&nbsp;procedures&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;risk&nbsp;of&nbsp;physical,&nbsp;chemical&nbsp;and&nbsp;biological&nbsp;contamination&nbsp;that&nbsp;may&nbsp;damage&nbsp;the&nbsp;product&nbsp;and&nbsp;personnel&nbsp;as&nbsp;well.&nbsp;Risk&nbsp;audit&nbsp;procedure&nbsp;should&nbsp;cover&nbsp;the&nbsp;risk&nbsp;audit&nbsp;team,&nbsp;risk&nbsp;audit&nbsp;criteria,&nbsp;risk&nbsp;level,&nbsp;when&nbsp;the&nbsp;risk&nbsp;audit&nbsp;conducted,&nbsp;risk&nbsp;audit&nbsp;result&nbsp;and&nbsp;monitoring&nbsp;plan&nbsp;for&nbsp;critical&nbsp;point.</div><div>For&nbsp;2.0.7&nbsp;Not&nbsp;acceptable.&nbsp;Factory&nbsp;should&nbsp;conduct&nbsp;risk&nbsp;assessment&nbsp;to&nbsp;analyze&nbsp;the&nbsp;risk&nbsp;form&nbsp;physical,&nbsp;chemical&nbsp;and&nbsp;biological&nbsp;in&nbsp;each&nbsp;process.&nbsp;And&nbsp;risk&nbsp;assessment&nbsp;should&nbsp;according&nbsp;to&nbsp;production&nbsp;flow,&nbsp;and&nbsp;analyze&nbsp;the&nbsp;risk&nbsp;level,&nbsp;give&nbsp;the&nbsp;control&nbsp;method.</div><div>For&nbsp;3.0.13&nbsp;Not&nbsp;acceptable.&nbsp;The&nbsp;training&nbsp;plan&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;mention&nbsp;the&nbsp;training&nbsp;department.&nbsp;And&nbsp;please&nbsp;provide&nbsp;training&nbsp;record&nbsp;and&nbsp;supplier&nbsp;assessment&nbsp;record.</div><div>For&nbsp;6.0.2&nbsp;Not&nbsp;acceptable.&nbsp;Please&nbsp;provide&nbsp;the&nbsp;documented&nbsp;sampling&nbsp;plan&nbsp;for&nbsp;WM&nbsp;products&nbsp;and&nbsp;related&nbsp;inspection&nbsp;record.</div>viewfile.php?id=2249<br />

边城一刀 发表于 2011-4-16 11:20:12

<p>哦哦,要慢慢看哦</p>

chuhanchen 发表于 2011-4-16 11:53:13

<p>E文,头晕.</p><p>等有空再来细看.</p>

ruihong 发表于 2011-4-16 12:53:15

FCCA验厂有这么难吗?

若我安可 发表于 2011-4-16 13:08:39

<p>应当这么说吧,有质量管理基础的工厂做FCCA不是太难.若是基本上一穷二白:一没专职质量检验人员,二没质量文件和记录的工厂,是有些难.</p><p>我个人觉得质量验厂比人权验厂在建立体系和文件\记录方面更有难度. 因为很多人权验厂可能是假到底的东西,但质量,不能,可以说是半真半假. 这种情况,我觉得做起来有点难度.</p>

chuhanchen 发表于 2011-4-16 16:31:12

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>isofu</i>在2011-04-16 10:25:53的发言:</b><br /><p>我们上次FCCA验厂,我上次回复FCCA的CAP报告,有几点客户不接受,帮我看一下如何回复最好。</p><p>多谢大家了!</p><p>下面是回复:</p><div>For1.1.2Notacceptable.Pleaseprovidethephotooftestequipment.</div><div>For2.0.1Notacceptable.Pleaseprovideinventoryofincomingmaterials.</div><div>For2.0.6Notacceptable.Factoryshouldestablishtheproceduresfortheriskofphysical,chemicalandbiologicalcontaminationthatmaydamagetheproductandpersonnelaswell.Riskauditprocedureshouldcovertheriskauditteam,riskauditcriteria,risklevel,whentheriskauditconducted,riskauditresultandmonitoringplanforcriticalpoint.</div><div>For2.0.7Notacceptable.Factoryshouldconductriskassessmenttoanalyzetheriskformphysical,chemicalandbiologicalineachprocess.Andriskassessmentshouldaccordingtoproductionflow,andanalyzetherisklevel,givethecontrolmethod.</div><div>For3.0.13Notacceptable.Thetrainingplandidn'tmentionthetrainingdepartment.Andpleaseprovidetrainingrecordandsupplierassessmentrecord.</div><div>For6.0.2Notacceptable.PleaseprovidethedocumentedsamplingplanforWMproductsandrelatedinspectionrecord.</div>viewfile.php?id=2249<br /></div><p></p>楼主,附件是你说的回复给客人的CAP报告是么? 而这段英文, 则是客人看了你的这个CAP后给的回复,而不是你给客人的回复, 是么?

chuhanchen 发表于 2011-4-16 16:36:56

<p>书到用时方恨少. E文很让我痛苦地说. 楼主的那个的报告, 有没有中英文对照的版本?.</p>

xiaowang 发表于 2011-4-16 16:44:42

<p>无法引用。</p><p>我想可能是的。</p><p>请对FCCA有经验的朋友帮一下楼主。</p>

iluvlinda 发表于 2011-4-19 10:31:27

<div>For 1.1.2 Not acceptable. Please provide the photo of test equipment.</div><div>此处增加一个图片:电/风批扭力测试工具</div><div></div><div><div>For2.0.1 Notacceptable.Please provide inventory of incoming materials.</div><div>此处提交2~3份来料库存单,最好是电子档的,打印后拍照。</div><div></div><div><div>For 2.0.6 Not acceptable. Factory should establish the procedures for the risk of physical, </div><div>chemical and biological contamination that may damage the product and personnel as well. </div><div>Risk audit procedure should cover the risk audit team, risk audit criteria, risk level, </div><div>when the risk audit conducted, risk audit result and monitoring plan for critical point.</div><div>此处工厂首先需要建立一个风险评估程序,评估内容包括物理,化学和微生物等可能对产品和物品造成污染和危害。</div><div>风险评估程序内应该包括建立一个评估队伍,评估标准,风险水平;评估报告和监测计划是关键点。</div><div>提交证据:也就是需要提供程序文件一份,评估报告2~3份(最好一份对人,一份对产品),之后就是一个年度监测计划表。</div><div>程序建立后应该执行程序培训记录</div><div></div><div></div><div><div>For 2.0.7 Not acceptable. Factory should conduct risk assessment to analyze the risk form physical, </div><div>chemical and biological in each process. And risk assessment should according to production flow, </div><div>and analyze the risk level, give the control method.</div><div>同2.0.6</div><div>备注:你找下LEC评估表,最好给我看过后再用。呵呵</div><div></div><div></div><div><div>For 3.0.13 Not acceptable. </div><div>The training plan didn't mention the training department.</div><div>And please provide training record and supplier assessment record.</div><div>此处比较麻烦的是,贵厂的qa应该不是iso的内审员吧?这样子吧,贵厂找一个资格的内审员协同qa人员对下属供应商(主要部件供应商)进行iso的审核,保留审核报告和改善计划。</div><div>至于提交的证据的话,一是,内审资格员证书,二是,工厂审核报告和改善计划</div><div>如果做得更好一点就是,让内审员或外部培训公司对qa进行体系培训并保留培训记录</div><div></div></div><div><div>For 6.0.2 Not acceptable. Please provide the documented sampling plan for WM products and related inspection record.</div><div>此处更简单,提交一份抽样检查计划,(内容应该是aql那一套的做法,程序文件可以适用于来料、制程和最终检查3个方面的抽验)</div><div></div><div>哥们,这费用吗就按1小时算,给钱吧!!!!</div></div></div></div></div>[此帖子已经被作者于1303183822编辑过]

xiaowang 发表于 2011-4-19 11:14:58

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