lillian 发表于 2012-6-16 11:10:06

转贴:记录舌战仲裁庭

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;text-indent:24.1pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体"><span lang="EN-US"><strong><font size="2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">这是一个转贴,是我一个已故的大哥写的,今天翻电脑里的资料,想不到还有保留,所以翻出来晒晒。</span></font></strong></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;text-indent:24.1pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体"><span lang="EN-US"><strong><font size="2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa"></span></font></strong></span></span>&nbsp;</p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;text-indent:24.1pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体"><span lang="EN-US"><strong><font size="2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">[</span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">原创<span lang="EN-US">]</span>真实记录<span lang="EN-US">:</span>舌战仲裁庭</span></font></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa"><br /></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa"><font size="2">本文除对部分语言稍稍进行了书面组织之外<span lang="EN-US">,</span>至少<span lang="EN-US">95%</span>为现场实况<span lang="EN-US">,</span>请大家评论<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但是请不要做人身攻击</font><font size="2"><span lang="EN-US">.<br /></span>舌战仲裁庭</font><font size="2"><span lang="EN-US"> <br /></span>经过无数次的考虑、推敲与精心的准备,终于等到开庭的这一天。说实话,心理比较紧张,为了便于让自己的心情平和,我比对手早半个小时来到了劳动局,先熟悉环境,放松心情,我不喜欢打没有准备的仗。</font><span lang="EN-US"><br /></span><font size="2">第一次进入劳动仲裁厅,更让我有点恐惧与压力,空间不大,但是布置得肃穆、庄严,宛如法庭。正中的位置是仲裁员(相当于审判长或法官),两边是仲裁员和书记员,下面两边分别是申诉人和被诉人的两个台位置。我很清楚自己的位置(第一次上法庭,第一次作为被告),我先坐到了被诉人席位,放下资料,观察四周,顺便舒缓一下情绪。</font><span lang="EN-US"><br /><font size="2">8:55</font></span><font size="2">申诉人和其代理人匆匆赶到<span lang="EN-US">(</span>事实证明<span lang="EN-US">,</span>来的匆忙不是好事<span lang="EN-US">)</span>。因为申诉人原是工厂员工,我只是厂方代表而已,并非个人恩怨,所以,我向他打招呼,并和其代理人握了握手<span lang="EN-US">(</span>顺便说一句<span lang="EN-US">,</span>其代理人是一位个子不高的中年人<span lang="EN-US">,</span>戴着眼镜<span lang="EN-US">,</span>气度不凡<span lang="EN-US">,</span>据申诉人之前说<span lang="EN-US">,</span>其代理人是一位做了<span lang="EN-US">10</span>来年<span lang="EN-US">HR</span>经理人的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>让我感受到一种无形的压力<span lang="EN-US">,)</span>。</font><span lang="EN-US"><br /><font size="2">9:00</font></span><font size="2">仲裁员和书记员进入仲裁厅分别就座,仲裁员先确认了申诉方和被申诉方人员身份后,宣读了仲裁厅的规则后,本次劳动争议案件审理正式开始。就在仲裁员说完之后,申诉代理人突然向仲裁员提出能否推迟开庭,因为没有时间细看被诉人提交的答辩书和证据,仲裁员说:没有必要推迟,等下被诉人会就答辩书内容进行宣读的。(为了便于理解以下内容,大部分以对话方式进行)</font><span lang="EN-US"><br /></span><font size="2">仲裁员:现就申诉人<span lang="EN-US">XXX</span>诉<span lang="EN-US">XXXX</span>公司劳动争议一案正式开庭审理。申诉人,你是什么时候进入<span lang="EN-US">XXXX</span>公司的。</font><span lang="EN-US"><br style="mso-special-character:line-break" /><br style="mso-special-character:line-break" /></span></span></span></span></p>[此帖子已经被作者于1339816718编辑过]

lillian 发表于 2012-6-16 11:14:29

<span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">申诉人:我于<span lang="EN-US">2005</span>年<span lang="EN-US">X</span>月<span lang="EN-US">X</span>日进入该公司<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>仲裁员:从事什么工作,担任什么职务<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>申诉人:做<span lang="EN-US">XX</span>师傅<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>仲裁员:有签订劳动合同吗<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>申诉人:有签,<span lang="EN-US">2006</span>年<span lang="EN-US">5</span>月签的<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>仲裁员:你的申诉请求事项是否有变更<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>申诉代理人:请问我能够代替我的当事人回答问题吗<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>仲裁员:可以<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>申诉代理人:申诉请求没有变更,但是原请求事项中有关加班加点时间计算有误,请问能否更改<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>仲裁员:可以<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>申诉代理人:原请求事项第一点第<span lang="EN-US">B</span>项原计算加班加点时间为<span lang="EN-US">342</span>小时,其结果有误,</span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">应为<span lang="EN-US">242</span>小时,现改为<span lang="EN-US">242</span>小时</span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">,其他要求不变<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>仲裁员:申诉人,请你就你的申诉理由进行说明<span lang="EN-US">.<br /></span>申诉人:我于<chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="8" year="2005"><span lang="EN-US">2005</span>年<span lang="EN-US">9</span>月<span lang="EN-US">8</span>日</chsdate>进入<span lang="EN-US">XXXX</span>公司工作,担任<span lang="EN-US">XX</span>师傅职位,其间,工作一直兢兢业业、任劳任怨,没有出过任何差错。在<span lang="EN-US">2006</span>年<span lang="EN-US">8</span>月中的一天,我的主管突然找我谈话,说工厂现在订单不多,属于生产淡季,如果外面有更好的发展,可以让我到外面寻求更好的工作,并希望我自己提出辞职,但是,我没有同意他的要求。在<chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="21" year="2007"><span lang="EN-US">8</span>月<span lang="EN-US">21</span>日</chsdate>上午,我的主管通知我,下午不用上班了,现在就到人事部办理辞退手续,于是,我到人事部办理手续,发现辞退单上辞退我的理由是:工作能力不足。下午,财务在门卫室给我结算工资的时候,我发现没有支付未提前三十天通知解雇的代通知金及一个月的经济补偿金,就向财务提出要求支付,财务人员说,公司解雇你<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不可能有这个支付。<span lang="EN-US"><br style="mso-special-character:line-break" /><br style="mso-special-character:line-break" /></span></span>

lillian 发表于 2012-6-16 11:15:16

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉代理人:因为<span lang="EN-US">XX</span>公司无故辞退我的当事人,并且未按法律规定支付经济补偿金。因此,依据《劳动法》、《违反和解除劳动合同》、《广东省工资支付条例》的相关规定<span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">第一<span lang="EN-US">:</span>我们向被诉人追讨<chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="8" year="2005"><span lang="EN-US">2005</span>年<span lang="EN-US">9</span>月<span lang="EN-US">8</span>日</chsdate><span lang="EN-US">-<chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="21" year="2006">2006<span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US">年8</span></span><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US">月21</span></span><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US">日</span></span></chsdate><span lang="EN-US">的加班工资15434</span></span>元<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>第二:支付<span lang="EN-US">9</span>天法定假日工资<span lang="EN-US">566</span>元<span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">工厂每日上班<span lang="EN-US">9</span>个小时<span lang="EN-US">,</span>其计算方法为<span lang="EN-US">:1170/20.92/8*9*9=566</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体"><br /></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">第三:支付拒不支付加班加点工资之经济补偿金<span lang="EN-US">7738</span>元<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>第四:支付拒不支付加班加点工资之赔偿费<span lang="EN-US">7738</span>元<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>第五:支付未提前通知辞退申诉人之代通知金<span lang="EN-US">1170</span>元<span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">(</span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">工厂辞退员工未提前一个月通知<span lang="EN-US">,</span>故用人单位需支付一个月的代通知金给工人<span lang="EN-US">)</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体"><br /></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">第六:支付无故辞退申诉人之经济补偿金<span lang="EN-US">1170</span>元<span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></span></p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">(</span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">工人在工厂工作一年<span lang="EN-US">,</span>辞退理当支付一个月的经济补偿金<span lang="EN-US">)</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa"><br /></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">第七:支付额外经济补偿金<span lang="EN-US">585</span>元</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa"><br /></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">第八:因为本案是被诉人不按法律规定执行引起,我们要求由被诉人支付本案的审理费用<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>仲裁员:被诉人,你对申诉人的说法有不同意见吗<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>被诉人:我不认同申诉人及其代理人的申诉理由和说法。事实根本不是如此<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我们不是无故辞退申诉人的。<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span>申诉人在<chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="11" year="2006"><span lang="EN-US">2006</span>年<span lang="EN-US">5</span>月<span lang="EN-US">11</span>日</chsdate>与我公司签订了一份劳动合同,同时又签订了一份附加协议,并约定违反哪些规定,公司可随时解除劳动合同。自<span lang="EN-US">2006</span>年<span lang="EN-US">5</span>月到<chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="21" year="2007"><span lang="EN-US">8</span>月<span lang="EN-US">21</span>日</chsdate>,申诉人共迟到<span lang="EN-US">15</span>次、早退两次,其中<span lang="EN-US">5</span>月份迟到<span lang="EN-US">5</span>次<span lang="EN-US">,6</span>月份迟到<span lang="EN-US">3</span>次<span lang="EN-US">,</span>早退<span lang="EN-US">1</span>次<span lang="EN-US">,7</span>月份迟到<span lang="EN-US">5</span>次<span lang="EN-US">,</span>早退<span lang="EN-US">1</span>次<span lang="EN-US">,8</span>月份迟到<span lang="EN-US">2</span>次<span lang="EN-US">,</span>迟到情况申诉人考勤卡上都有清晰的显示,而公司与申诉人签订的协议第一条的第一点明确规定:上下班必须刷卡,准时上下班,第二条说明,如果违反第一条所约定的十次以上,即属于劳动合同中第二十九条第(三)点中:屡次违反劳动纪律、厂纪厂规的。而该条同时说明<span lang="EN-US">,</span>乙方存在有此情形的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>甲方可以随时解除劳动合同<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并且无须支付经济补偿金给乙方<span lang="EN-US">.<br style="mso-special-character:line-break" /><br style="mso-special-character:line-break" /></span></span>

lillian 发表于 2012-6-16 11:15:37

<span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">并且<span lang="EN-US">,</span>在申诉人进入公司的第一天<span lang="EN-US">,</span>公司人事部即对其进行了厂纪厂规和<span lang="EN-US">&lt;</span>员工手册<span lang="EN-US">&gt;</span>培训<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并进行了考核<span lang="EN-US">,</span>同时发放了一份<span lang="EN-US">&lt;</span>员工手册<span lang="EN-US">&gt;</span>给申诉人本人<span lang="EN-US">,</span>有考核试卷和培训记录表及员工手册领取签收表为证<span lang="EN-US">,</span>已经提交在答辨证据内<span lang="EN-US">.</span>而<span lang="EN-US">&lt;</span>员工手册<span lang="EN-US">&gt;</span>第二页第<span lang="EN-US">4</span>点很明确地说明了公司的工作时间和上下班时间<span lang="EN-US">,</span>第<span lang="EN-US">5</span>点也明确规定所有员工必须按规定上下班及加班打卡登记<span lang="EN-US">.<br /></span>另外<span lang="EN-US">,</span>在申诉人刚进入公司的时候<span lang="EN-US">,</span>也与公司签订了一份简易合同<span lang="EN-US">,</span>因为后来签了政府的格式合同<span lang="EN-US">,</span>所以<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我没有把这份合同列入答辨的证据内<span lang="EN-US">,</span>现在<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我把原件带来了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>请仲裁员检查<span lang="EN-US">.<br /></span>被诉人起身把合同递给仲裁员<span lang="EN-US">,</span>仲裁员仔细看过之后问<span lang="EN-US">:</span>申诉人<span lang="EN-US">,</span>你来确认一下这合同<span lang="EN-US">,</span>是你本人签得吗<span lang="EN-US">?</span>申诉人走上前接过<span lang="EN-US">,</span>仔细看过<span lang="EN-US">,</span>说<span lang="EN-US">:</span>是我自己签的<span lang="EN-US">.<br /></span>仲裁员<span lang="EN-US">:</span>请被诉人审理完毕后提交一份复印件于本庭<span lang="EN-US">.<br /></span>被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>是<span lang="EN-US">,</span>等下提交一份<span lang="EN-US">.</span>这份合同虽然简单<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但是合乎法律规定<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并没有违法的内容<span lang="EN-US">.</span>合同第七点<span lang="EN-US">:</span>乙方应遵守的劳动纪律<span lang="EN-US">:3),</span>乙方同意<span lang="EN-US">,</span>在厂内外接受并遵守甲方制宁的<span lang="EN-US">&lt;</span>员工手册<span lang="EN-US">&gt;,</span>并同意<span lang="EN-US">&lt;</span>员工手册<span lang="EN-US">&gt;</span>作为本合同的组成部分<span lang="EN-US">.</span>合同第八点<span lang="EN-US">:</span>违反合同责任<span lang="EN-US">:3),</span>乙方若违反本合同第七条第三款的规定<span lang="EN-US">,</span>甲方有权作出扣除工资的<span lang="EN-US">30%,</span>或视情节<span lang="EN-US">,</span>开除出厂<span lang="EN-US">,</span>终止合同<span lang="EN-US">.<br /></span>所有证据都证明申诉人是很清楚了解工厂的管理制度而蓄意违反<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并且屡屡不改<span lang="EN-US">.</span>这是公司与申诉人解除劳动合同的主要依据<span lang="EN-US">.<br /></span>同时<span lang="EN-US">,</span>自<span lang="EN-US">2006</span>年<span lang="EN-US">5</span>月以来<span lang="EN-US">,</span>申诉人在<chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="7" year="2005"><span lang="EN-US">5/6/7</span></chsdate>月连续三个月以来<span lang="EN-US">,</span>在员工考核中三个月均未达到公司的最低考核标准<span lang="EN-US">,</span>考核是由申诉人所在部门的组长及主管进行的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>考核制度中规定<span lang="EN-US">,</span>如果连续三个月均未达到最低标准的员工将依<span lang="EN-US">&lt;</span>员工手册<span lang="EN-US">&gt;</span>第<span lang="EN-US">9.3</span>条第<span lang="EN-US">(1)</span>点处理<span lang="EN-US">.</span>员工手册第<span lang="EN-US">9.3</span>条<span lang="EN-US">:</span>解雇和开除<span lang="EN-US">:</span>有下列情形之一的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>公司可随时解雇出厂<span lang="EN-US">,</span>而无须支付任何经济补偿<span lang="EN-US">.</span>第<span lang="EN-US">(1)</span>点<span lang="EN-US">:</span>员工存在有工作不认真<span lang="EN-US">,</span>得过且过<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不求进取表现的<span lang="EN-US">.</span>申诉人已经很了解公司的相关规定<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但是拒不改善自己的不足<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并且多次违反公司劳动纪律<span lang="EN-US">,</span>在公司员工中带来很坏的影响<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不得已<span lang="EN-US">,</span>公司在<chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="18" year="2007"><span lang="EN-US">8</span>月<span lang="EN-US">18</span>日</chsdate>结束<span lang="EN-US">7</span>月份的考核后<span lang="EN-US">,</span>于<chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="21" year="2007"><span lang="EN-US">8</span>月<span lang="EN-US">21</span>日</chsdate>与其解除劳动合同关系<span lang="EN-US">.<br style="mso-special-character:line-break" /><br style="mso-special-character:line-break" /></span></span>

lillian 发表于 2012-6-16 11:15:50

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">最后<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我强调一点<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我们是<span lang="EN-US">XX</span>行业<span lang="EN-US">,</span>是一种对技术要求很高的行业<span lang="EN-US">,</span>公司一直视熟练工人为公司的财富<span lang="EN-US">,</span>绝对不会无缘无故表现正常的员工解除合同关系的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并且<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我是做人力资源的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我也深知<span lang="EN-US">,</span>公司招聘一个员工比解雇一个员工的成本高得多<span lang="EN-US">.</span>所以<span lang="EN-US">,</span>公司从来都不会无故辞退任何员工<span lang="EN-US">.</span>申诉人说公司无故解雇他是没有道理的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>也不是事实<span lang="EN-US">.<p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">仲裁员<span lang="EN-US">:</span>被诉人<span lang="EN-US">,</span>你还未就申诉人请求支付加班费的事项进行回答<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>哦<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不好意思<span lang="EN-US">,</span>疏忽了<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>关于申诉人提出的加班时间及追讨加班费事项<span lang="EN-US">,</span>上班时间有工卡记录<span lang="EN-US">,</span>申诉人所提出的纯属推测<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我不予辨解<span lang="EN-US">,</span>工卡才是证据<span lang="EN-US">.</span>公司付给申诉人的加班工资为<span lang="EN-US">6</span>元<span lang="EN-US">/</span>小时<span lang="EN-US">,</span>远远高于本地区最低工资标准<span lang="EN-US">.</span>另外<span lang="EN-US">,</span>申诉人自<span lang="EN-US">2005</span>年<span lang="EN-US">8</span>月进入本公司以来<span lang="EN-US">,</span>在<span lang="EN-US">9</span>月份领取第一次工资或在领取第二次工资时<span lang="EN-US">,</span>就很清楚地知道了本公司的工资支付标准<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但是<span lang="EN-US">,</span>从申诉人进入公司直至离开公司为止<span lang="EN-US">,</span>公司没有接到申诉人任何的书面的或口头的关于工资的不同意见<span lang="EN-US">,</span>直至被公司辞退后<span lang="EN-US">,</span>才向劳动部门提出<span lang="EN-US">.</span>我们视为其已明确知道并接受了我们的支付标准……<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">(</span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">这时<span lang="EN-US">,</span>说话被申诉代理人打断<span lang="EN-US">) <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉代理人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>我的当事人默人接受<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并不代表你们的就是合法的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>当事人现在提出<span lang="EN-US">,</span>也是合法的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>是索要自己应得的劳动报酬<span lang="EN-US">,</span>请仲裁员支持我们的请求<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>我们先暂且不论此事<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我们拿此次劳动争议来说<span lang="EN-US">,</span>即使你觉得此次解除劳动合同不合法<span lang="EN-US">,</span>如果你超过<span lang="EN-US">60</span>天再到劳动部门来投诉或申请仲裁<span lang="EN-US">,</span>劳动部门是否还会受理<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉代理人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>这是不同的两回事<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p>

lillian 发表于 2012-6-16 11:16:06

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>是同样的道理<span lang="EN-US">.</span>申诉人在开始领取工资后<span lang="EN-US">,</span>一直都没有提出过任何异议<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我们视同他完全接受我们的标准<span lang="EN-US">,</span>而在被解除劳动合同之后再提出<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我们可以视其在故意滋事<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>对于这个问题<span lang="EN-US">,</span>加班时间和加班费<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我不再辨解<span lang="EN-US">,</span>由仲裁员最后判决<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>对于被诉人说我的代理人多次迟到及早退<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我的代理人在<span lang="EN-US">5</span>月<span lang="EN-US">/6</span>月<span lang="EN-US">/7</span>月<span lang="EN-US">/8</span>月<span lang="EN-US">,</span>从没有接到任何的警告信或通知<span lang="EN-US">,</span>告知其有迟到现象<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>我们每月初都会将员工工卡发给其本人确认其上月的出勤状况<span lang="EN-US">.</span>并会在工卡上注明当月出勤多少天<span lang="EN-US">,</span>请假多少天<span lang="EN-US">,</span>迟到多少次<span lang="EN-US">,</span>早退多少次<span lang="EN-US">,</span>旷工多少天等<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并由其本人在工卡上签名确认<span lang="EN-US">.</span>有<chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="7" year="2005"><span lang="EN-US">5/6/7</span></chsdate><span lang="EN-US">/8</span>月的工卡为证<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">仲裁员<span lang="EN-US">:</span>申诉人<span lang="EN-US">,</span>工卡上签名是你自己签得吗<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>是<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">仲裁员<span lang="EN-US">:</span>你们的工卡是如被诉人说的每月经你们自己确认吗<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>是<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>无论迟到<span lang="EN-US">,</span>早退<span lang="EN-US">,</span>旷工多少次<span lang="EN-US">,</span>都会很清楚地记录在上面<span lang="EN-US">,</span>而由申诉人签名确认<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并且毫无异议<span lang="EN-US">.</span>这就是我们的通知方式<span lang="EN-US">,</span>让他很清楚地了解他迟到了多少次<span lang="EN-US">,</span>也经他确认没有问题<span lang="EN-US">,</span>他才会签名的<span lang="EN-US">.</span>各位可以看工卡<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉代理人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>根本不是这么回事<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我的当事人说<span lang="EN-US">,</span>在他签工卡的时候<span lang="EN-US">,</span>上面根本没有写迟到早退次数<span lang="EN-US">,</span>上面只是注明了出勤天数<span lang="EN-US">,</span>其他的都是你们后来加上去的<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>我们的工卡一直都是那样计算的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我这里还带了一部分工厂其他人的工卡过来<span lang="EN-US">(</span>这也是我精心准备的另一份证据<span lang="EN-US">),</span>只是随便拿了一些员工的过来<span lang="EN-US">,</span>请仲裁员过目<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人起身把这一堆工卡提交给仲裁员<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>所有的工卡我们都是这样记载的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>出勤多少天<span lang="EN-US">,</span>请假<span lang="EN-US">,</span>迟到<span lang="EN-US">,</span>早退<span lang="EN-US">,</span>旷工都会在上面反映<span lang="EN-US">,</span>同时<span lang="EN-US">,</span>从这些工卡也可以看出<span lang="EN-US">,</span>如果申诉人能够遵守工厂规章制度<span lang="EN-US">,</span>就可以做到不迟到不早退<span lang="EN-US">,</span>为什么其他人可以做到一个月都没有迟到或早退一次呢<span lang="EN-US">?</span>因为申诉人根本就是漠视工厂的管理制度<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">……<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p>

lillian 发表于 2012-6-16 11:16:21

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉代理人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>好<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我问你<span lang="EN-US">,</span>既然你说我的当事人每个月都多次迟到和早退<span lang="EN-US">,</span>那为什么<chsdate wst="on" isrocdate="False" islunardate="False" day="7" year="2005"><span lang="EN-US">5/6/7</span></chsdate><span lang="EN-US">/8</span>月我的当事人没有因为一次迟到或早退而被扣款或罚款呢<span lang="EN-US">?</span>有这几个月的工资条为证<span lang="EN-US">.</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <shapetype id="_x0000_t75" stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" opreferrelative="t" ospt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"><stroke joinstyle="miter"></stroke><formulas><f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></f><f eqn="sum @0 1 0"></f><f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></f><f eqn="prod @2 1 2"></f><f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></f><f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></f><f eqn="sum @0 0 1"></f><f eqn="prod @6 1 2"></f><f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></f><f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></f><f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></f><f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></f></formulas><path gradientshapeok="t"></path><lock aspectratio="t" vext="edit"></lock></shapetype></font><shape id="_x0000_i1025" alt="发贴心情" type="#_x0000_t75" style="width:10pt;height:10pt"></shape><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">公司</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">&lt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">员工手册</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">&gt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">第二页第</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">5.9</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">规定</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">员工在一天内迟到或早退超过</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">分钟</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">扣除正班半小时工资</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">超过</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">20</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">分钟的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">扣正班一个小时</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">对那些可以不扣除工资的情况</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我们没有扣其工资或罚款</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">但是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我们会对其迟到的事实予以记录</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">. </font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">也就是说</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">不能说因为没有扣工资或进行经济处罚</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">迟到的事实就不存在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">虽然</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">公司的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">&lt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">员工手册</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">&gt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">订的比较人性化</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">但是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">员工不能因此而可以天天迟到</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">无限制的迟到</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">也并不代表申诉人这种屡次迟到并且拒不悔改的行为就是正常合理的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">因为</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">公司与所有人员都签了一份附加协议</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">第一条就是约定必须准时上下班</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">不可以迟到</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我想申诉人很清楚也很明白协议的要求</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">. <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">而我们制订这个的依据就是根据</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">&lt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">企业职工奖惩条例</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">&gt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">的规定来的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,&lt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">企业职工奖惩条例</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">&gt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">第三章处分第十一条规定</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">对于有下列行为之一的职工</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">应当给予行政处分</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">;(</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">一</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">违反劳动纪律</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">经常迟到</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">\</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">早退</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">\</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">旷工等现象的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">申诉人这种行为就属于经常迟到早退的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">. &lt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">企业职工奖惩条例</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">&gt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">第十二条又规定</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">对职工的行政处分为</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">警告</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">记过</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">开除等</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我们给申诉人做出的行政处分也是有法律依据的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我们并非因申诉人一次两次迟到就对其进行经济处罚或开除</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">而是因为申诉人多次迟到早退并且拒不改正</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">并且连续三个月考核达不到最低标准的情况下</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">才根据当初双方签订的协议及劳动合同的要求与其解除劳动合同的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">. <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">申诉代理人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">从工卡以及被诉人提交的答辨书上都可以看出</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人工厂正常上班时间为</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">9</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">小时一天</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">严重违反</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">&lt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">中华人民共和国劳动法</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">&gt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">第三十六条</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">国家实行劳动者每日工作时间不超过</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">8</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">小时</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">平均每周工作时间不超过</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">44</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">小时的工时制度</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">并且根据我的当事人的工资条显示</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人也没有按劳动法第四十四条规定</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">在安排劳动者延长工作时间的,支付不低于工资的百分之一百五十的工资报酬;休息日安排劳动者工作又不能安排补休的,支付不低于工资的百分之二百的工资报酬;法定休假日安排劳动者工作的,支付不低于工资的百分之三百的工资报酬。这种行为严重地侵犯了我的当事人的合法权益</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我要求被诉人全额支付加班工资以及法定假日工资和赔偿金</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">另外</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人说我的当事人连续三个月考核未达标</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">考核表上也没有我的当事人签名</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">另外</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我的当事人在这三个月中也没有收到任何的信息说他考核不合格……</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><p></p></span></p>

lillian 发表于 2012-6-16 11:16:33

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>我们的考核结果是由申诉人其组长及其主管进行的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>在每次考核完毕后<span lang="EN-US">,</span>其主管都会找他谈话<span lang="EN-US">,</span>向他指出他有哪些地方不足<span lang="EN-US">,</span>需要改进的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>同时<span lang="EN-US">,</span>人事部每月也会在考核完成后公布考核结果<span lang="EN-US">,</span>提交的证据中有这三个月的考核公告<span lang="EN-US">.</span>而申诉人连续三个月都达不到考核的最低标准<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并且不思改进<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉代理人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>那么请问<span lang="EN-US">,</span>你是因为我的当事人工作能力不足<span lang="EN-US">,</span>考核不合格而辞退他的吗<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>是因为申诉人多次违反公司劳动纪律并且拒不悔改<span lang="EN-US">,</span>同时连续三个月绩效考核达不到最低标准<span lang="EN-US">,</span>而解除劳动合同的<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉代理人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>你是不是因为我的当事人考核不合格而辞退他的<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">(</span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉代理人一下子加重了语气<span lang="EN-US">,</span>提高了声音<span lang="EN-US">,</span>侧过身子<span lang="EN-US">,</span>眼睛直视着我<span lang="EN-US">,</span>死死咬住这个问题不放<span lang="EN-US">,</span>陡然<span lang="EN-US">,</span>庭内的气氛一下子变得很紧张<span lang="EN-US">,</span>给我一种很强的压迫感<span lang="EN-US">) <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>我再次重申<span lang="EN-US">,</span>是因为申诉人多次违反劳动纪律并……<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">(</span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">发言马上被申诉代理人打断<span lang="EN-US">) <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉代理人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>你不必要说那么多<span lang="EN-US">,</span>你只需回答是或者不是即可<span lang="EN-US">.</span>你是因为我当事人考核不合格而辞退他吗<span lang="EN-US">?</span>请回答是或者不是<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>是因为……<span lang="EN-US"> <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">仲裁员<span lang="EN-US">:</span>申诉人请注意<span lang="EN-US">,</span>在这里<span lang="EN-US">,</span>你不是律师<span lang="EN-US">,</span>被诉人也不是证人<span lang="EN-US">,</span>你不可以这样要求他回答是或者不是的问题<span lang="EN-US">.</span>不可以这样问<span lang="EN-US">,</span>他也有权拒绝回答你的问题<span lang="EN-US">.</span>请你注意<span lang="EN-US">(</span>呵<span lang="EN-US">,</span>谢天谢地<span lang="EN-US">) <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">一下子<span lang="EN-US">,</span>庭内短暂的沉默<span lang="EN-US">,</span>也让我松了一口气<span lang="EN-US">,(</span>现在回想起当时的激烈气氛<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我仍是倍感紧张<span lang="EN-US">) <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>我的当事人当时所拿到的辞退单上辞退原因是写”能力不足”而被辞退的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>他的主管对他说他胜任不了工作而被辞退<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被申诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>不是<span lang="EN-US">,</span>辞退原因是因为申诉人”屡次违反劳动纪律<span lang="EN-US">,</span>工作不认真<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不思进取”<span lang="EN-US">(</span>我扬了扬手中的辞退单<span lang="EN-US">),</span>如果说不胜任工作<span lang="EN-US">,</span>申诉人自<span lang="EN-US">2005</span>年<span lang="EN-US">9</span>月进入公司工作<span lang="EN-US">,</span>当初约定了试用期<span lang="EN-US">,</span>如果说不胜任工作<span lang="EN-US">,</span>就连试用期都过不了<span lang="EN-US">.</span>我们公司视技术熟练的工人为公司的财富<span lang="EN-US">,</span>决不会轻易辞退任何一个表现正常的工人<span lang="EN-US">.</span>是因为申诉人屡屡违纪而又拒不悔改等原因迫使公司与其解除劳动合同的<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉代理人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>我的当事人当时拿到的根本不是现在这张辞退单<span lang="EN-US">,</span>辞退原因也不是这个<span lang="EN-US">.</span>而且<span lang="EN-US">,</span>辞通单上也没有他的签名<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p>

lillian 发表于 2012-6-16 11:16:48

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>这是唯一的一份辞退单<span lang="EN-US">,</span>也就是辞退申诉人的辞退单<span lang="EN-US">(</span>说着<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我再次举起了手中的辞退单<span lang="EN-US">),</span>如果申诉人还有其他不同的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>请出示<span lang="EN-US">.</span>至于上面无申诉人签名<span lang="EN-US">,</span>工厂规定<span lang="EN-US">,</span>凡时员工自己辞职的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>需要员工自己本人签名填写外<span lang="EN-US">,</span>辞退的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>是没有本人签名<span lang="EN-US">,</span>这一点<span lang="EN-US">,</span>你可以问申诉人自己<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;text-align:left;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">被诉人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>另外<span lang="EN-US">,</span>如果申诉人认为公司是无故解雇他或者解雇理由不充分<span lang="EN-US">,</span>他当时完全可以拒绝办理辞退手续<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不结工资<span lang="EN-US">,</span>可以直接到劳动部门来投诉啊<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我想<span lang="EN-US">,</span>如果是那样<span lang="EN-US">,</span>劳动部门一定会受理<span lang="EN-US">,</span>公司也会重视<span lang="EN-US">.</span>但是<span lang="EN-US">,</span>申诉人是完全接受与认可公司以”屡次违反劳动纪律”等理由也他解除合同关系的<span lang="EN-US">.</span>所以<span lang="EN-US">,</span>当时即办理了辞退手续<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并结算了工资<span lang="EN-US">.</span>也没有在人事部办理辞退手续时提出半点异议<span lang="EN-US">. <p></p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:宋体">申诉代理人<span lang="EN-US">:</span>那时候<span lang="EN-US">,</span>什么都是工厂说了算<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我的当事人根本反抗不了<span lang="EN-US">.</span>工厂辞退他<span lang="EN-US">,</span>他只有被辞退了<span lang="EN-US">.</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <br /></font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:&lt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">广东省劳动合同管理规定</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">&gt;</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">第六章违反劳动合同的责任第四十一条规定</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">由于当事人一方的过错</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">造成劳动合同不能履行或者不能完全履行</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">由过错的一方承担责任</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">给对方造成损失的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">必须承担赔偿责任</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">而现在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">申诉人与公司的劳动争议就属于这种现象</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">因申诉人屡次违反劳动纪律</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">拒不改进</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">并且连续三个月考核达不到最低标准</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">而导致劳动合同不能履行</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">是因为申诉人的过错而造成的……我们考虑到申诉人是劳动者</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">公司不予追究因申诉人的过错而导致劳动合同不能履行的责任</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">但是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我们保留这个权利</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.<br /></font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">因此</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我们按劳动合同规定及员工手册规定与申诉人解除劳动合同是完全合法有效的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">并且无须支付任何经济补偿</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">. <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">申诉代理人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人明明违反劳动法……</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">仲裁员</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">好了好了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">你们都不要跟我搬什么法律法规大道理了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">也不想听了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">. <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">仲裁员</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">对于这次劳动争议</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">你是否愿意接受调解</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">……</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我沉思了一下</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">说</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">可以考虑</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">. <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">仲裁员</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">那你说</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">你愿意给多少</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">……</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我又沉思了一会</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">说</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">念在申诉人为公司服务近一年</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我愿意多支付相当于其一个月工资给他</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">供他这段时间在外面找工作及生活费用</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">. <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">仲裁员</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">多少钱</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">?? <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:XXXX <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">仲裁员</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">申诉人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">你愿意接受调解吗</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">申诉代理人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">可以</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">. <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">仲裁员</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">那你愿意接受被诉人刚才的说法吗</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">申诉代理人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">不愿意</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我可以放弃追讨加班费的请求</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">但是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">要求被诉人全额支付经济补偿金</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">. <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">仲裁员</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">你愿意么</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我不愿意</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">因为公司并非无故解除申诉人的劳动合同关系的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">我们只是出于道义上的考虑</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">愿意多支付</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">XXXX</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">元给他做生活补助</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">. <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">仲裁员</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">那你愿意接受调解吗</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">被诉人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">愿意</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-indent:24pt;line-height:10pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">仲裁员</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">:</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">好</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">休庭</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">分钟</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">你们双方再商量一下</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">调解不成</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">,10</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">分钟后继续开庭</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:">现在休庭</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><font face="Times New Roman">!!!</font></span><span lang="EN-US" 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